[lojban] Re: bridi structure?

["buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk" <buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk>]

coi

Although I was not skilled in the grammers of Arabic, but I could hear
the teacher of words such as:
A second object,The effect for him, Beginner, news, Absolute effect,
the effect of him, maybe I do not remember there are other things may
serve ...

 But if we get them for sitting bridi structure is the best , instead
memorize all difinitions.

co'o
ki'esdi'es


On 6 مارس, 04:15, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 06, 2012 06:52:13 buroq_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > coi
>
> > bridi: subject cu verb object x3 x4 x5 vau
>
> > x1: the subject
> > x2:the object
> > x3: what?
> > x4: what?
> > x5: what?
>
> > Or what is the logic used by the scientist in the vocabulary
> > definition of the dictionary ?
>
> Most English verbs have no more than three places, where x1 is the subject, x2
> is the direct object, and x3 is the indirect object. At least one verb (namely
> "bet") has a fourth place. If "to" is not used to mark the indirect object,
> the order is x1 verb x3 x2 x4.
>
> In the ergative alignment, x1 is the direct object, x2 is the subject, and x3
> is the indirect object. I don't know any ergative languages.
>
> Lojban lacks alignment. In a bridi with "dunda", x3 is the indirect object,
> but in a bridi with "grake", x3 isn't a subject, direct object, or indirect
> object; it's the standard used to define the unit (currently a hunk of metal
> stored in a suburb of Paris, hopefully soon a physical constant like the rest
> of them). Some categories of brivla have consistent place assignments; all
> second places of words denoting kinds of plant, animal, or other living thing
> denote a taxon to which the living thing belongs. Similarly all second places
> of measuring words denote the numerical value. But there is no connection
> between x2 of grake/mitre/delno and x2 of lanme/tirxu/finpe/xruba.
>
> Pierre
> --
> li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
> li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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