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Re: [lojban] Nasal assimilation



Jorge Llambías, On 10/03/2012 11:19:
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 7:21 AM, cntrational<cntrational@gmail.com>  wrote:
In most languages, when nasals come before stops, they generally assimilate
to the stop. So, we don't say "inpossble", we say "impossble" -- /np/ is a
cluster that's rare in most languages; it's usually changed to /mp/.
Similarly for /mt/ → /nt/ and /mk/ → /ŋk/. Which makes it really weird that
Lojban *does* allow clusters like /np/. What's up with that? Seems like a
pretty glaring omission in the Lojban phonotactic rules, especially
considering how common nasal assimilation is in the world.

In English such assimilations don't really happen (cf. "input",
"gumtree", "camcorder"). "Impossible" came into English with the
assimilation already there. The designers of Lojban were English
speakers, not linguists, so Lojban has a strong bias towards English
phonotactics, not towards what's common in the world.

English place assimilation is very active, but (i) it targets /n, d, t/, (ii) it's leftwards, (iii) it's mostly optional (a lazy way of saying that in certain environments it's optional and in certain environments it's obligatory).

It's true that the designers of Lojban knew little linguistics, but quite a few aspects of Lojban phonotactics are weird for English too.

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