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Re: [lojban] Have you guys heard of eSpeak?



Die tsani, die!!!! Mwa ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!! :D

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
Only words beginning with vowels, that aren't cmevla (which require pauses on both sides) require a pre-stop.
[.i] requires a pause because it is vowel-initial.
[ni'o] does not; it is consonant-initial.
[.djeikyb.] requires two pauses, one before, one after; it is a cmevla. (of course, that's if you adhere to dotside. If not, you can omit the pre-stop under certain circumstances: the word is preceded by [la] or [doi], which under non-dotside are forbidden to appear in the cmevla itself.)

By "pause", please understand that it's not necessarily the complete stopping of sound production. The "glottal stop" and the "no sound" sounds are valid for [.] in Lojban, and therefore [.] may have a sound.

If you're a fervent believer in audio-visual isomorphism, which according to some is already false for Lojban, you should write the period everywhere it would be spoken. If you're lazy, you can omit the period in all places where it may be unambiguously inferred: before a vowel-initial word and after a consonant-final word. It cannot be unambiguously inferred that there is a pause before a consonant-final word. In particular, the " " character can be a pause as well as it may not be, therefore in [la djeisyn], there are two interpretations: the sumti [la .djeisyn.] and the name [ladjeisyn]. Therefore, it is best to always begin cmevla with a pause, no matter the circumstances.

Of course, if you're all-around lazy like me, you can just never write the pauses: no one will try to kill you (at least I hope).

mu'o mi'e la tsani

On 22 March 2012 23:02, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
There is no stop in {ni'o}. If there were a stop, there would be a ".".


On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:51 PM, RexScientiarum <amt2839@gmail.com> wrote:
I downloaded eSpeak when I learned it did text to speech for lojban.  It seems nearly flawless (to me, but I am just learning), the only thing I can tell is wrong with it is that it doesn't put a stop in at {ni'o}... still it does with {.i}.  I assumed everyone knew about it but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere so I thought I'd mention it.  Is its pronunciation accurate?

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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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