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Re: [lojban] Historians: Do you happen to know when lojban was forked off loglan?





On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:38 AM, banseljaj <ali.sajid.imami@gmail.com> wrote:
coi la lojbab

Thank you for replying so quickly. I am indeed trying to plan out an anniversary.
First weekend of January 1987 puts the 25th Anniversary at 2nd/3rd January 2013. Would that be correct?
 
No. The 3rd was a Friday in '87, the weekend is Saturday and Sunday.
 
Thanks again.
Also, Thank you for Lojban.



On Monday, April 23, 2012 2:17:17 AM UTC+5, lojbab wrote:
banseljaj wrote:
> This is a question to all oldhands, senior lojbanists.
> I am interested in knowing about the date Lojban was forked off loglan.

The process started in Mar 1987, after JCB would not sell me materials
for a Loglan class, since I wouldn't sign agreements conceding his
intellectual property claims.  We started making new gismu starting in
Jun, and had a set of gismu by the end of the year.  But the language
was still called Loglan and then Loglan-88, and we still thought if it
as a negotiating tactic.  Nora and I got married using vows written in a
hybrid wordlist, and spoke some quasi-Lojban on our honeymoon in
Williamsburg VA in October 1987. There was a formal "announcement" of
the language at Evecon 1988, the first weekend in January (which I think
is the logical time to plan a "25th anniversary celebration", if anyone
has such a thing in mind).  It was during 1988 that we started using the
name "Lojban - A Realization of Lojban", and we pretty much realized
that we were going to have the finish the language (i.e come up with a
formal grammar).  That took most of the year, and the JCB started
threatening legal action in Feb 1989, which pretty much ensured that the
fork was going to remain.

The early copies of Ju'i Lobypli (under different names for the first
couple of issues), are somewhere on the Lojban website, and provide more
dates and details.

lojbab
--
Bob LeChevalier

President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc.

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