Re: {zdile} is confusingly glossed (was Re: [lojban] Baby word: silly)

[Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:18 PM, la .lindar. <lindarthebard@gmail.com> wrote:

That's subtle, though.  {mi nitcu co klama le zarci mu'i lo nu mi
djica lo ladru} vs. {mi bilga co klama le zarci mu'i lo nu le mamta
cu cpedu}, OSLT.

-Robin

Explain, Oh Grand Chief Lojbanistan. I don't quite see the difference. I interpret as "have need of" vs. "am required to" where {nitcu} has some kind of implicit raising. 

{mi nitcu co klama le zarci mu'i lo nu mi djica lo ladru}
"I need to go to the store because I want milk."
In order to satisfy my desire (milk), there is something that must happen (go to the store).

{mi bilga co klama le zarci mu'i lo nu le mamta cu cpedu}
"I need to go to the store because my mother asked me to."
In order to satisfy my obligation (mother's request), there is something that must happen (go to the store).

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