Michael Turniansky wrote:
I had actually asked that question on the list back on 2/22/08: preti .i ma tertu'u to te tubnu toi .i ri du da poi ca'a nenri lo tubnu gi'i pu se vimcu fi lo tubnuBoth xorxes and selckiku agreed at the time the asnwer was "gi'u"--gejyspaOn Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com <mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com>> wrote:Agreed. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org <mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>> wrote: That's what would be *useful*, but in that case you'd just say "filled with x3", or perhaps "for being filled with x3". So many wording problems in the gismu list. -_- -Robin On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:54:29PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Ah, yes. I must have glossed over the x2 bit. I thought it was something > else. In that case, I would suppose that the x3 is what is currently > occupying the hollow region of the tube, such as water in plumbing, similar > to the x2 of botpi. Further, I would guess that the reason for the > awkwardness of its phrasing is due to the uncommonness of the concept > attempting to be expressed in English.
Yes.It is the material that currently comprises the hollow/interior/filling, usually air or water as the concept usually is used in English. English talks of a tube or pipe as being "filled with" some material, suggesting that the interior was not part of the tube, but rather that the tube was a container of a sort. There probably should be an alternate wording that matches the container version of the concept (but in the days when the gismu list was first written, a primary purpose was to support LogFlash, and hence character count was critical).
I was trying to word it to obtain a more generalized concept - one that would allow us to consider an insulated wire to be a tube or insulation with a copper (or other conductor) as the filling (or alternatively, the electric current might be considered the "filling", though this is stretching the concept). I think that there were some other related concepts that we were trying to include as well, but they don't come to mind.
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