Re: [lojban] Re: racli/ralci

stevo

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:11 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

hile the morphology is set in stone, LoCCan3 (which, admittedly, does meditate on fiddling with the morphology, too) considered redoing the vocabulary, which is largely happenstantial, though with some thought given to various sorts of easy confusions. Someone worked once -- I have no idea who or when, now, or where it might be stored -- the number of CCV/CVCCV forms with all the Lojban constraints which would avoid all the obvious problems (though what is obvious varies from person to person, culture to culture,etc.) and came up with a number rather lower than the number of gismu now in use. I remember that care was taken about voiced/voiceless, about simple order shifts in clusters, about /r/ vs both /l/ and /x/, but I think there were other factors. Anyone remember -- or can suggest -- others? Maybe CC/C exchanges? And something about vowels, too, but I don't remember what.

From: Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: racli/ralci

No one raised fetsi/festi ? Or/tsani stani ? Or tinsa/tisna ?
If we're going to play with voiced/unvoiced, why not gugde/kukte ? Or hey stani/zdani ?

Lojban is full of this and anyone with any kind of speech disorder/impediment/whatever-it's-called will probably have a bit more trouble than in a natural language, but of course Lojban has other benefits or advantages versus other languages, so it's all a matter of perspective, not to mention that it's hardly likely that this will ever be mixed. (The morphology seems rather set in stone.)

mu'o mi'e la stani

On 27 July 2012 23:01, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

On Friday 27 July 2012 22:19:42 la .lindar. wrote:
> kalci - kelci
> ractu - ratcu
> cirla - cilre
> simsa - simlu

garna - grana
junla - julne
simlu - simxu
cmaci - jmaji

The ones that keep confusing me are "ratcu/ractu" (both mammals, and
lagomorphs were classified within the rodents) and "grana/garna" (significant
overlap of extension). The others don't bother me as much. If someone said "I
put my goat on because it's gold", you can figure out what he meant.

Pierre

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