On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Robin Lee Powell
<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 01:03:11AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> >>
> > Exactly. But Robin suggested making {carna} obsolete.
> > Therefore, I'm suggesting a new gismu that would cover all those
> > meanings including {ti carna}.
> >
>
> No, Robin suggested making Lojban have one word for "turn", and
> one for "rotate". This would mean making carna mean one of the
> two, and making a new word for the other.
>
> In other words, going from:
>
> carna : x1 turns/rotates/revolves around axis x2 in direction x3.
>
> To:
> carna : x1 turns from x2 to x3
>
> gutni : x1 is rotating counter-clockwise viewed from orientation x2 about
> rotational axis/axes (set if multiple) x3
latro`a convinced me that we'd actually need two words, because {to'e gutni} wouldn't be "rotate opposite-of-ccw', but "opposite of [rotate ccw]", which doesn't make sense.
> This is what was discussed in the chat.
Oh that's a *fantastic* solution to salvaging carna! I love it! I
couldn't figure out a way to salvage it.
Now, someone has to go through the uses of carna at
http://www.lojban.org/corpus/ and see how many significantly
disagree with that version.
Um, NOT IT!
(and then ping me, because I'm mostly not reading this thread,
sorry)
-Robin