Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro}

[tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com>]

On 17 August 2012 15:45, Paul Predkiewicz <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> A thing can be specific without being specified by the speaker. You
>> are probably looking at some specific computer display but you can
>> just leave it unspecified in your utterance by calling it "zo'e": a
>> specific unspecified thing.
>
>
> Ok, from the talker-perspective this might be true, but for the listener
> there is no real difference between "he didn't tell me" (unspecified?) and
> "he doesn't care" (unspecific?)
> untill of course the talker continues and finaly does specify what he was
> talking about. or stating he doesn't care.

It's similar to how {lo} works, at least under xorlo. {lo plise} can
refer to specific or non-specific apples -- a distinction that may be
subjectively held by the speaker but objectively illegible to the
listener.

Some existing UI might help to disambiguate some of the differences:

  mi citka lo su'a plise
  I eat general instances of plise1.

  mi citka lo su'anai plise
  I eat particular instances of plise1.

  mi citka zo'e su'a
  I eat something general.

  mi citka zo'e su'anai
  I eat something particular.


mu'o

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