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Re: Re: [lojban] Re: Zombie





On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM, <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
On , ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not all uses of "zombie" (in English) involve a controller; e.g. Left 4 Dead, Night of the Living Dead, Shawn of the Dead, etc.

Yes, I've seen all those "BRAAAAIIINS" and green skin around but I would favour the original Voodoo myth :)


> Also, I'd just like to note that I have difficulty pronouncing the terminal {ii} to be distinct from {i}.

We have a similar problem in Italian with "principii" (principles) and "principi" (princes). With some exercise they come out very distinct.

It shouldn't be difficult at in Lojban. {ii} is a diphthong pronounced "YEE", {i} is a vowel pronounced "EE".

What would be your take on fu'ivla containing {dii}?

The same as my take on all fu'ivla: I don't like it.

You'll have to be more specific if you want a better answer.

Do you notice any difficulties with {dii}?

No. Should I?

Allowing {ii} after coronal sounds like {d} causes many fine minimal contrasts - {di dzi dji zi ji} seems plenty; those with {dii dzii djii zii jii} seems excessive. 

For some people, plain semivowel {i} will be mixed up with some sort of fricative or affricate even before OPEN vowels.   When you place it near {i}, you are almost insisting that they (af)fricatize it.


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