On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:16 AM,
<jsemeria92@gmail.com> wrote:
I was just wondering if anyone is working on updating the CCL (or any learning materials for that matter) to correct for xorlo?
I remember hearing or reading somewhere (for the life of me I can't recall the source) a few days ago that it was being worked on but I've failed to find any information about such a thing. I only ask because I want to try taking a crack at learning lojban again but I'd rather wait until the online CCL thing is updated with xorlo. I find the thought of learning lojban while trying to figure out how it really works with xorlo instead. Leads to me being very confused and frustrated I suppose. So I occasionally click on the lojban website, check to see if the CCL has had xorlo incorporated and it never is so I end it at that. Rinse and repeat.
I really could go through the effort of course, but I'm a weirdo who's mind does not work in his own favor, so I frustrate easily, constantly obsessing over learning it right the first time and not worrying that this xorlo thing. I like learning from the CCL, reading over all the details and quirks of the language, its like a fun language puzzle to me. It makes me think a lot, and makes me want to write stuff and explore this language like an odd puzzle. I'm nerdy like that I suppose. So having one resource without having to mentally wonder wtf is different in actual current lojban use since there seems to be no way to learn lojban post-xorlo like I want. So it seems my two options are: learn lojban as it currently resides within the online reference grammar book thing, then after all that update my knowledge to accommodate the xorlo proposal, or have the xorlo proposal page in another tab (as i've done before) while reading the section of the CCL (I forget the acronym for the online version, my apologies) reading that and switching between the two and rewriting the info to incorporate xorlo. But I seem to lose motivation quite quickly unfortunately due to the daunting task, and remembering that I probably would have to go through the rest of the book as well to update stuff. I don't know, I'm crazy I guess.
Now moving past that rambling nonsense I'll come to my second question, how long ago was this xorlo proposal approved? I don't know about the date but I think its safe to say at least three years, I really don't know however. So why is it in all that time, there seems to have been no attempt (or rather no successful attempts) of changing the learning materials for this xorlo thing? Its a pretty big change in the language, though not too big I suppose. And for a newbie like me at least, seeing this big change and trying to learn with all the materials not using it, is very confusing and for me at least because as previously stated I am crazy, frustrating. Perhaps its a lot of work, in fact I know it is and I am very appreciative to anyone and everyone who has worked on lojban and teaching those curious. And I know there is a lot of work being done right now on aspects of the language, though I don't have much knowledge about what exactly this work is. From what I know its going over cmavo mostly and doing important things like finishing the language but again I'm not quite sure exactly how people are doing that. I'm very glad this is happening and people are doing this, but it seems all the effort is going towards "perfecting" the language which is quite a noble goal, but seems to be taking all the effort away from getting the language to grow. And by that I mean, getting more people to learn lojban and grow the community. The extra interest may lead to extra man power for all of this work I suspect.
Perhaps I'm wrong about all this, I admit I'm not very knowledgeable about the community at the moment. So I was just wondering what's going on with things these days? I'm trying trying to get back into lojban, but I feel as though at the moment that its not worth getting into if the community is divided and/or isn't quite focused on gaining more members to lojban. I'm not stating that is a fact at all, perhaps its exactly the opposite, I'm simply stating what it currently feels like to me at least.
P.S. Thank you for reading and sorry for rambling on too long, I tend to do that when I type late at night lol.
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