Re: [lojban] baby words, sort of: catlu vs. zgana

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 15:17:48 Jacob Errington wrote:
> {viska} is a primitive that doesn't require any cognition really. Events
> are on a level much higher than light just reflecting off surfaces into a
> sensor. I would argue that a camera can viska. By contrast, {catlu}
> inherently requires congition and probably volition too, and is definitely
> more appropriate for "seeing" events.

There's enough logic hardwired in the visual cortex to perceive that something 
is moving, as well as that it is an apple, without having to move the eyes. So 
I consider "mi viska lo nu lo plise cu farlu" to be valid.

"catlu" means to point the eyes at something, to direct one's attention at 
something which one sees. "ko viska" would be said to someone whose eyes are 
closed or who was blind and can now see. "ko catlu" would be said to someone 
whose gaze is pointed somewhere else.

Pierre
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