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Re: [lojban] A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban



On Monday, 24 September 2012 19:59:59 UTC-7, .alyn.post. wrote:
This is a project I could really find myself getting behind, and I
also have some concerns.  Would you, gleki, or someone else involved
be willing to discuss them with me?

Yaaaaaaay! Enthusiasm!
 
 * I'd like to hear at least a basic outline on the theory of why the
   existing Lojban wiki got to it's current (rubbish?) state and what
   will be different this time.

Abandonment of pages and generally a lack of any articles linking to other articles or any sense of anything linking to anything ever. Have you ever been caught in wiki hell before? I want to see that level of linkage on every wiki page. Also, slightly unrelated, but still awesome, we can make a page for the best-form lujvo and then redirect all possible combinations of rafsi to the best-scoring word (i.e. brodybroda redirects to rodbo'a and fukpyvalsi / fukyvalsi / fukyvla / fu'irvalsi / fukpyvla / etc. redirects to fu'ivla), which may be a boon for using the website as a dictionary tool. It would allow us to include discussion, examples, and more along side the definition of each word.
 
 * Sort of to the same point: this community starts far more
   projects than it finishes.  This impacts the wiki, because a page
   will get written but then becomes unmaintained and eventually
   becomes part of the long tail of pages that are out of date but
   still vaguely relevant.  Is starting this wiki also a commitment
   to curate it?  Asked another way: is this project different from
   the other projects that are started but not completed or
   maintained?

Lindar actually gives two shits about it and is currently working on the dictionary project, which I hope will integrate with this. The big reason for MediaWiki of all things is that it lets a dumbshit like me create Wiki pages without having to understand complex concepts like "programming" or "computers", so I can just slap-dash a page together with a pretty picture (I can't embed pictures on tiki pages like on MediaWiki. This is a huge problem for me and one of my biggest complaints.) and call it a day.
 
 * Last week I needed the redirect feature of Lojban's tiki software
   enabled.  I was able to contact Robin on IRC and ask him to enable
   it, and he did so later than day.  Who is the support person for
   this wiki?  Any idea of how responsive you'll be?

This, unfortunately, cannot be answered by Lindar.
 
    * I have several templates that I would like to use on this wiki.
      They require the Cite and ParserFunctions extensions.  Will the
      support person add these extensions please?  /me starts timer.

Again, not by me. If this remains outside of lojban.org then it's entirely in the hands of the two people that've developed the page so far. Either way, not something with which I can help. 
 
Thank you!  I have made a deep investment in mediawiki and use it in
every other community I participate in.  I'd love to see lojban.org
use this software, but I don't understand why it fixes and/or is
better than the current wiki.

I hope I've been a help with some of your questions.

-Lindar 

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