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Re: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:58:15AM -0800, la gleki wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:50:44 PM UTC+4, .alyn.post. wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:37:51AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:29 AM, .alyn.post.
> > <[1][1]alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:05:34AM -0800, la gleki wrote:
> > > * *On Monday, November 19, 2012 8:47:45 PM UTC+4, entot wrote:
> > >
> > > * * *On Friday, November 16, 2012 3:25:53 PM UTC+9, iesk wrote:
> > >
> > > * * * *- setting the default (= menu display and so on)
> language to
> > Lojban
> > > * * * *(logged in users may be able to change it for
> themselves);
> > >
> > > * * *Since the purpose of the wiki includes introducing Lojban
> to
> > people who
> > > * * *doesn't know about it (doesn't it?), wouldn't it be better
> to
> > have
> > > * * *English as the default interface language?
> > > * * *It seems to be the most used language on the internet:
> > > * *
> *[1][2][2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_used_on_the_Internet
> > >
> > > * *A quick and short reply from me <.ienaisai>
> > > * *English is not the most common language on the planet ([2]my
> > updated
> > > * *method of generating gismu uses data from here
> > > *
> >
> *[3][3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers)
> > > * *and English is No 2.
> > > * *I guess you just don't see any method of overriding this but
> I hope
> > I can
> > > * *fix that soon. LMW will be opened in the language of your
> browser
> > (for
> > > * *those who are not logged in).
> > > * *Making Lojban the default language in LMW indeed would force
> us to
> > write
> > > * *articles in Lojban first and therefore increase our own
> lojbanic
> > skills
> > > * *(this idea was mentioned in IRC by la tsani ku .io)
> > > * *Now some news.
> > >
> > > * * 1. CavendishMW skin added (though I don't like it but
> others might
> > do).
> > > * * 2. Semantic Mediawiki added and installed.
> > > * * 3. [4][4]http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets
> added.
> > > * * 4. Autocapitalisation of the name of articles disabled.
> > >
> >
> > If you enabled this how I think you did, it is probably more
> touble
> > than it's worth. *A lot of templates on wikipedia and other
> places
> > are sloppy with case, which you can solve using #REDIRECT for
> pages
> > but I have not figured out how to solve for namespaces.
> >
> > My experimentation with this option caused templates to cease
> being
> > useful, so I reverted to using the {{lowercase}} template from
> > wikipedia instead of enabling this option.
> >
> > Um, he said DISabled, not ENabled....
> > *
> >
>
> Ah, Mediawiki is a bit weird this way. It by default capitalizes
> the first word of a page, which I assume is what gleki refers to
> as Autocapitalization. Disabling this changes the default, which
> is why I said "enabling." You have to actively work to make
> mediawiki not do this.
>
> Heh, Alan is right. I just added
> $wgCapitalLinks = false;
>
> ti'e we can do that on a per namespace basis.
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCapitalLinkOverrides
>
> $wgCapitalLinkOverrides[ NS_FILE ] = false;
>
> What should I put instead of NS_FILE? mi mutce se cfipu tu'a la'oi
> settings
>
Nice, this is the first time I've been exposed to this option. The
last I played with capitalization I tried aliases namespaces without
much luck. You should set NS_TEMPLATE to false. We might have to
do NS_CATEGORY too, but I think things will work without doing
NS_CATEGORY and it would be nice to not have initial uppercase.
ma'a ba lifri la'e di'u => Let's see what comes of it!
mi'e .alyn.
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