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Re: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban



On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:58:15AM -0800, la gleki wrote:
>    On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:50:44 PM UTC+4, .alyn.post. wrote:
> 
>      On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:37:51AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>      >    On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:29 AM, .alyn.post.
>      >    <[1][1]alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
>      >
>      >      On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:05:34AM -0800, la gleki wrote:
>      >      > * *On Monday, November 19, 2012 8:47:45 PM UTC+4, entot wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      > * * *On Friday, November 16, 2012 3:25:53 PM UTC+9, iesk wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      > * * * *- setting the default (= menu display and so on)
>      language to
>      >      Lojban
>      >      > * * * *(logged in users may be able to change it for
>      themselves);
>      >      >
>      >      > * * *Since the purpose of the wiki includes introducing Lojban
>      to
>      >      people who
>      >      > * * *doesn't know about it (doesn't it?), wouldn't it be better
>      to
>      >      have
>      >      > * * *English as the default interface language?
>      >      > * * *It seems to be the most used language on the internet:
>      >      > * *
>      *[1][2][2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_used_on_the_Internet
>      >      >
>      >      > * *A quick and short reply from me <.ienaisai>
>      >      > * *English is not the most common language on the planet ([2]my
>      >      updated
>      >      > * *method of generating gismu uses data from here
>      >      > *
>      >
>       *[3][3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers)
>      >      > * *and English is No 2.
>      >      > * *I guess you just don't see any method of overriding this but
>      I hope
>      >      I can
>      >      > * *fix that soon. LMW will be opened in the language of your
>      browser
>      >      (for
>      >      > * *those who are not logged in).
>      >      > * *Making Lojban the default language in LMW indeed would force
>      us to
>      >      write
>      >      > * *articles in Lojban first and therefore increase our own
>      lojbanic
>      >      skills
>      >      > * *(this idea was mentioned in IRC by la tsani ku .io)
>      >      > * *Now some news.
>      >      >
>      >      > * * 1. CavendishMW skin added (though I don't like it but
>      others might
>      >      do).
>      >      > * * 2. Semantic Mediawiki added and installed.
>      >      > * * 3. [4][4]http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets
>      added.
>      >      > * * 4. Autocapitalisation of the name of articles disabled.
>      >      >
>      >
>      >      If you enabled this how I think you did, it is probably more
>      touble
>      >      than it's worth. *A lot of templates on wikipedia and other
>      places
>      >      are sloppy with case, which you can solve using #REDIRECT for
>      pages
>      >      but I have not figured out how to solve for namespaces.
>      >
>      >      My experimentation with this option caused templates to cease
>      being
>      >      useful, so I reverted to using the {{lowercase}} template from
>      >      wikipedia instead of enabling this option.
>      >
>      >    Um, he said DISabled, not ENabled....
>      >    *
>      >
> 
>      Ah, Mediawiki is a bit weird this way.  It by default capitalizes
>      the first word of a page, which I assume is what gleki refers to
>      as Autocapitalization.  Disabling this changes the default, which
>      is why I said "enabling."  You have to actively work to make
>      mediawiki not do this.
> 
>    Heh, Alan is right. I just added
>    $wgCapitalLinks = false;
> 
>    ti'e we can do that on a per namespace basis.
>    http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCapitalLinkOverrides
> 
>  $wgCapitalLinkOverrides[ NS_FILE ] = false;
> 
>    What should I put instead of NS_FILE? mi mutce se cfipu tu'a la'oi
>    settings
> 

Nice, this is the first time I've been exposed to this option.  The
last I played with capitalization I tried aliases namespaces without
much luck.  You should set NS_TEMPLATE to false.  We might have to
do NS_CATEGORY too, but I think things will work without doing
NS_CATEGORY and it would be nice to not have initial uppercase. 

ma'a ba lifri la'e di'u => Let's see what comes of it!

mi'e .alyn.
-- 
.i ma'a lo bradi cu penmi gi'e du

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