But again, lojban doesn't necessarily divide up the world in the same way as any other given schema/language does, for good or ill. Since you specifically want to ask about the periodic table, we can questions like, "why isn't there a gismu for the lanthanides, or the actinides, haolgens, or heck, even 'radioactive'?" jinme includes alloys, etc. We have a word, ratni, that can used to specify elemental compunds. But again, we're talking about a language that (at least on a gismu level) differentiates between rats and mice, but doesn't even have a word for "rodent". That classes worms and mollusks together, lumps tigers and cheetahs and panthers (but not lions get their won), etc.
--geyspa
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ian Johnson
<blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
That seems significantly less useful than having a term for "noble gases", especially since nitrogen is actually not as inert as everyone intuitively thinks--under very high pressure, gas tanks for human breathing need to use noble gases rather than nitrogen, because under sufficient pressure diatomic nitrogen begins reacting with our tissues.
mu'o mi'e la latro'a
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
Except that "navni" officially refers to "inert gasses", not "noble gasses" Therefore, they are not necessarily elemental, and also nitrogen would actually likely be included, despite the fact that it has its own specific gismu, as well as stuff like
http://www.conceptfire-uk.com/products/inert-gas-ig55-inergen-ig541/
--gejyspa
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Ian Johnson
<blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
Given that all the other ones were included, its exclusion feels deliberate at a glance.
mu'o mi'e la latro'a
Who says helium is not a navni? It most certainly is. It's solnavni. Lists of things in square brackets in definitions are not intended to be exhaustive, if that's what led you to that conclusion.
--gejyspa
Apparently the default type of navni is neon, and helium is not a type of navni. Why are either of these the case?
mu'o mi'e la latro'a
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