Re: [lojban] Re: Elementary-particle physics. Glossary. Work in progress...

[la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>]

On Friday, December 7, 2012 10:24:04 PM UTC+4, Latro wrote:
> The semantics of the natural language words are rather complicated, and discussing them thoroughly in their common Lojban name would require essentially discussing a large chunk of the Standard Model whenever discussing quarks or basic particle physics. This would be analogous to always using IUPAC or SMILES notation to describe chemical names, except even worse. There's a reason natlangs use common names!
>
> That said, I am skeptical as to whether we even need in-language technical jargon like this. Many natlangs don't have it and instead rely on English or similar intermediate languages for such purposes already.

I relied on English because 99% of all articles on this topic is written in English. So it can be the only source.
Mandarin uses 夸克 (kuākè) for "quark" i.e. also tries to borrow an English term.

May be nobody has noticed but I've taken this table from Ithkuil lexicon.

Of course we could create a bunch of new gismu, create lujvo out of them and use that as the author of Ithkuil suggests.

I don't need such complicated things.

If Lojban had been created in 18 century nobody would have added {se ratni} to it's definition. And no one knows what will happen with future theories of physics.

If someone can order those particles according to their nature and therefore create appropriate lujvo.... heh, well, I'll become a fan of this person. But....
ju'o lo po'o cevni ku djuno

 

mu'o mi'e la latro'a

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 12:25 PM, shanoxilt <osiris_hade...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, December 7, 2012 9:54:04 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:

Atom
atom	ratni
atomic nucleus	ratnymidju
nuclide (i.e., specific configuration of Z-value, N-value, and energy state for a particular atomic nucleus)
atomic electron cloud	lektonydilnu
orbital state (i.e., state and behavior of an electron based on its orbital probability distribution)	lektonydilnu tcini
behavioral state/effect of atomic electron cloud, i.e., photon-mediated attractive force (Coulomb force)	lektonydilnu se rinka
isotone	mintu sekai lo ka lo nurtoni poi cmima lo se rutni be ce’u
isobar	mintu teryratni
nuclear isomer / nuclear energy state	stodyfrica rutni / frica fi loka nejni lo ka stodi / mintu sekai lo ka rutni ce’u ce’u???
stable nuclide
isotope	mintu selyratni
ground state of nuclide
excited state or nuclide
mirror nucleus
unstable/radioactive/radionuclide
Particles
fermion	fermioni
anti-fermion	tolfermioni
boson	jbozoni
boson. fundamental “force” (e.g., electromagnetism, strong, weak, gravity, dark energy)	jbozoni nu vlipa
quark	kuarko
anti-quark	tolkuarko
“string” (from string theory)	stringo
vibration of “string” (from string theory)	stringo nu vlipa
lepton	leptoni
anti-lepton	tolyleptoni
acceleron (hypothetical particle associated with theories of dark energy)	akceleroni
dark energy (i.e., counter-gravitational “force” that is accelerating the expansion of the universe	akceleroni nejni/nu vlipa
quark’s “flavor” and “color”
up	galtu
charm	semanci
top	galtytraji
red	xunre
green	crino
blue	blanu
bottom	dizlytraji
strange	cizra
down	dizlo
the particular type of lepton (or anti-lepton):
muon	cmuioni
charged lepton (i.e., non-neutrino lepton)
tau lepton, tauon	ctauoni
electron	lektoni
electron neutrino	leknurtini
muon neutrino	cmunurtini
tau neutrino	ctanurtini
neutrino (i.e., any of the three types)	nurtini
the particular type of boson and/or its associated interaction or “force” :
graviton/gravity	gravitoni
weak gauge boson (i.e., either the W+, the W-, or the Z) / the weak interaction or force	uigbozoni
photon [as associated with electrical phenomenon] / electricity	gusnioni
W+ boson / the weak interaction or force as mediated by the W+ boson (use PLV1/1 suffix to indicate the W- boson)
photon / electromagnetism
Z-zero boson / the weak interaction or force as mediated by the Z-zero boson	nonbozoni
Higgs boson / Higgs mechanism	xigzoni
gluon / the strong interaction or color force	gluioni
the supersymetrical partner of the particular particle (i.e., its “sparticle” counterpart)
Supersymmetry	trajylanxyvelminra
photino	gusniino
gluino	gluiino
gravitino	gravitino
slepton	leptiino
squark	kuarkiino
sneutrino	nurtiino

 

.i'e nai The section about quark teminology is just a direct translation of the English words!

We need Lojban terms that describe what these properties are/do, not arbitrary words ripped from natural languages.

 

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