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Re: [lojban] searching



As defined, sisku means "x1 looks among the members of set x3 for something which has property x2". To clarify, it does not mean that you're looking for a particular object, which is why a property is used; I can be looking for "something green" without caring which green thing I ultimately find.

This definition is rather cumbersome, and especially rather frustrating in situations like the one you describe where you're looking for a concrete object, which is of course the most common situation.

That said, {facki} and {troci co facki} can work using {fi}, because when you find your keys you {facki lo du'u lo ckiku cu zvati ma kau kei lo ckiku}. Of course, {troci co facki fi lo ckiku} is rather frustratingly vague, while {troci co facki lo ckiku cu zvati ma kau} is frustratingly verbose.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
Going through the gismu on memrise (awesome service by the way), and I got to "sisku".

Apparently I've been using this really core word completely wrong.  I've been using it like "mi sisku lo mi ckiku", when evidently x2 is a property and x3 is a set.... of somethings?

I'm kind of confused by this definition.  So, if there is a set of properties, and there is one property in that set which x1 seeks among that set x3.

I'm just a little confused about how this is meant to be used.

Meanwhile, what do I say when I'm looking for my car keys?  "mi troci co facki lo ckiku"?

Except, double checking to make sure that I've got that right, even that seems wrong since to "facki" is to discover a fact about a subject/object.  I guess an object's location is a fact about it.... but still.... I just want to find my damn car keys, how do I say that?!

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