{na'e}, at least in my understanding of it, requires a scale. This is frequently nonsensical, including in this situation. {na'ei} is the contradictory negation NAhE.mi'e la latro'a mu'o
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.Why do you have to resort to experimental cmavo? na'e works just fine there. Another possibility was "...lob. go'i vy na.enai cy" (or equivalently, "...lob. go'i genai vy ginai cy", both equivalent to the English "neither V nor C")--gejyspaOn Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:38 AM, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> wrote:
.i zoi .lob. srpmla'u .lob. na go'i fo vy. .e cy.While I know what you meant, this doesn't say what you meant in either of the two common variations of {na}. CLL-na moves naku to the front; "standard idiom"-na amounts to a naku in the same place. In either case the negation scopes over the {.e}, which inverts it, resulting in "It's not true that ... for both V and C", i.e. "It's false that ...for at least one of V or C". You wanted either {.a} instead of {.e}, terminal {naku}, or (if you're into experimental cmavo) {na'ei} in the same place as your {na}.
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