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Re: [lojban] Why is there no noodle gismu?



On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:23:07 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 13:18:28 Craig Daniel wrote:
> Buckwheat is not a grain, yet soba is still a type of noodle.

It's a norgru, so I'd still call soba "grusko". Or it could be "xubysko",
unless there's some other kind of string made from xruba.

> Fettuccine are not cylindrical, but they're definitely a noodle as well.

I'd call them "grusri" or "nabysri".

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:50:56 Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:47:15AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > I'm still behind {pasta}. I'd be hard pressed to find a better
> > word than that.
>
> I would want to know where that word originated, how long it's been
> aronud, what other words have been around longer, etc., before
> simply importing a word from English.

The word is from Latin from Ancient Greek and exists in all of the source
languages except Chinese (in which the word is "mein" or "mian" depending on
how you transliterate the dialects). (Quick Wiktionary check.) I've seen it
used in Portuguese for a small briefcase, and the primary meaning in Russian
is "paste" (which is likewise from Latin "pasta"), but it is also used for
"pasta" in Russian.

In Mandarin it's just "Italian noodles".
In Russian it's usually  "makarony".

I won't run the algorithm because it will for sure mutilate this word.
Sorry no other ideas (except removing the word {pastu} that has 29 occurrencies in the corpus).


Pierre
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