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Re: What is official? (Was: [lojban] Why is there no noodle gismu?)



In re xorlo: you need to distinguish between changes and clarifications.  sorlo was originally (and still is perhaps) somewhat unclear and there have been successive steps to clarify uncertainties.  But not, I think, real changes (but then, I probably just use my own version and don't pay much attention to what else is going one).


From: selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 9:10 AM
Subject: What is official? (Was: [lojban] Why is there no noodle gismu?)

la .lojbab. cu cusku di'e
> Ian Johnson wrote:
>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder -
>> LLG
>>
>>    kanpe ki'a
>>
>> {kanpe} is a (the?) BPFK-recognized experimental gismu,
>
> Never heard of it.
>
> BPFK hasn't recognized any experimental gismu, or even the possibility
> of experimental gismu.  There hasn't even been a procedure defined for
> doing so (nor has the BPFK even been authorized to make changes to the
> language other than as necessary to complete the baseline documentation,
> though that authorization is foreseen, and the BPFK itself has the power
> to decide what is "necessary").
>
> The *only* change to the language that BPFK has recognized is xorlo.

Does "recognized" mean accepted as official? As far as I can tell, not even xorlo is immune to changes or future no-votes. From the "BPFK Procedures" page:

"A poll is attached to the proposal page, where people vote to indicate their approval of the proposal. Voters may change their vote at any time."

Anyone who was allowed to vote back then can change their mind and vote no today, so technically, the BPFK has not made any final decisions about anything. Yet, xorlo seems commonly accepted (though not generally liked) and gets described as "official".

(The xorlo proposal got changed relatively recently, in December 2011.)

I think it's problematic to cling to a baseline that is over a decade old. Lojban has evolved considerably in the meantime, and doing it this way, the documentation might never catch up.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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