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Re: [lojban] Please, the best explanation of {le} vs. {lo}



On Friday, June 21, 2013 4:01:54 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On Friday, June 21, 2013 02:29:23 la arxokuna wrote:
> mi'a got a request to explain the difference between {lo} and {le} with
> good examples from English. The person who is asking for that is not
> satisfied with what is described in BPFK sections of lojban.org. Please
> help.

If there's only one referent, both "lo" and "le" are correct, and I prefer
"lo". For example, unless the universe of discourse includes inhabited planets
orbiting other stars, there's only one solri, and I'd say "lo solri".

The habit of using "a" the first time something is mentioned and "the"
thereafter is to be avoided in Lojban. The way to indicate this in Lojban (if
it's necessary to indicate) is "bi'u", e.g.:
ni'o le bi'u cmalu bloti
ze'epu naku xe klama
...
.i lo cmalu finpe kilto cu
plipe le bloti le xamsi

Then what would be the difference from {lo bi'unai bloti}?

And earlier you said "{le} is what you say when you have a particular thing in mind". Isn't everything we talk about we have somehow in mind?

Sorry, I'm not joking. This is really a question from the russian jbo-community. I need to explain it somehow.





When talking about a species, meaning all or typical members of the species,
use "lo":
lo guakmaio be la blanu joi pelxu cu xabju lo ketco solni'atutra
The blue-and-gold macaw lives in tropical South America.
It is also correct to use "lo'e".

And again I can't see why can't we use {le} or {le'e}. You are talking about macaw living in America so you have them in mind although you might no necessarily saw them.
 

Pierre
--
lo ponse be lo mruli ku po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

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