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Re: [lojban] Please, the best explanation of {le} vs. {lo}



"selbri tag"?  not CLL, but, that aside, what does it means: "they are cute (to me) (in some respect) like (something or other)"  "sorta cute?"
Problem was that I couldn't easily get from "young beautiful" to "cute": "young" fits, "beautiful" not so much.  But then, I was never a fan of compositional definitions anyhow, so I'll stick with what I said.
But the explanation according to which Dog is what {lo gerku} really means is much more complicated (not to mention based on more implausible assumptions) than the perfectly straightforward one, even in its mathematical form.




From: selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Please, the best explanation of {le} vs. {lo}

la .pycyn. cu cusku di'e
> Not sure what {tai} does here, no NP after it.

{tai} is a selbri tag there, which means it implicitly tags {zo'e}.

> (I pass over {ci'omle},
> you're entitle to make your compounds mean whatever you want them to.)

{ci'omle} is an alternate form of {citmle}, which has been in the dictionary for a long time, but some prefer the sound of {ci'omle}. Both mean "cute". I guess I'll add {ci'omle} as well, didn't know it hadn't already been added.

> Saying all {lo gerku} refer to Dog is a retrograde step, back into the
> Jurassic levels of the history of {lo} and xorlo.  It is occasionally
> true, but rarely, and -- given enough metaphysical argle-bargle --
> always true in a sense, but not one useful to point out in most cases.

Well, it can help some people to understand what {lo} really means, when other explanations didn't work.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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