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Re: [lojban] Re: Making a jbo locale file and package for installation, need some suggestions.



(Arabic has the same system as Hebrew, btw)


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
  Actually, there are natlangs that do use numbers.  For example, Hebrew's days of the week translate to first day, second day, third day, fourth day, fifth day, sixth day, Sabbath.  This system has been in use for thousands of years and still is.  (And of course is in direct conflict to the the nominal lojbanic system).  And it steps on the toes of anyone who equates the seventh day with Saturday (i.e. those form the jegvo religions).

         --gejyspa



On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Feilen Haksan <feilen1000@gmail.com> wrote:

I... May have missed something. Numbers are very culturally biased, because of course no one uses numbers. Colors on the other hand aren't because you made it (or it's used in China?)

I still think neutrality is important, but gleki brought up a good point on IRC : There's no way to be neutral when we're using someone else's calendar already.

On Jul 10, 2013 9:06 AM, "Michael Turniansky" <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
  Well, before any of the IRC people weigh, I vote color days.   I HATE the number day system as being very culturally biased.  Of course, I also created the color day system, so I am me-biased...

   --gejyspa



On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:49 PM, la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:52:54 PM UTC+4, la arxokuna wrote:
I can agree with Pierre that color system of jefydei (jeftu djedi) might be better.
It'll give a flavor of liveliness to otherwise mathematically precise logical language.
This color system can be part of a totally independent Lojbani culture.

I can't agree with animal naming of months ({mlajukma'i} for July) as zodiac is not a stable thing throughout history due to precession effects. And it's not culturally neutral (some nations divided the route of the sun into more than 12 elements).

However, as Georgian calendar is official (like metric system) it'd be wise to use Georgian names.

o'anai clearly I meant to say GREGORIAN.
 

Why should we name January the first month when New Year is in February in China?
Why September is {sozymasti} when as it's etymology suggests it's in fact the seventh month?

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