Re: [lojban] Survey about learning the basic vocabulary

[Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>]

On Sunday, November 10, 2013 06:18:23 Wuzzy wrote:
> Notes: I only talk about the _official_ gismu, cmavo and rafsi.
> Knowledge of other valsi or rafsi is not relevant to this survey.
> With “memorized” I mean something like: I throw you out of bed and ask you
> “Quick! What’s the definition of ‘jalge’?” then you automatically,
> while still not really awake, can say the correct answer.

I don't think that's a good criterion for knowing a word. It is one aspect of 
knowing a word, but I know lots of words that I can't instantly define when 
suddenly asked.

If you know the word "bakni", you should be able to point at one when passing 
by it; recognize that "lo nakni bakni cu bunre xunre" makes more sense than 
"lo baktu bakni cu cmaci smuci"; answer correctly "lo bakni ji lo ractu cu se 
sufti?"; and be able to put "bakni", "xarju", and "mirli" correctly in "lo 
_____ cu zmadu lo _____ lo ni ckini lo _____".

Knowing a word by its definition in another language can lead to errors. 
Yesterday I was in church and we were discussing the two goats of Yom Kippur. 
First I said "de los dos chivos, mata uno por azar", which is correct but not 
the usual way of saying it. Later I said "elige un cabrío por lote", which is 
wrong. I picked the wrong word for "lot". (lote=tumspi; suerte=azar=cunso.) 
Similarly one can know that "jdari" means "hard", and "nandu" means "hard", 
and pick the wrong one.

Pierre
-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli ku po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.