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Re: [lojban] Individuals and xorlo



Thank you xorxes and .asiz

"lo pa xanto" can only be a single elephant: the elephant in front of you, the African elephant, the elephant being digested by a boa constrictor in Saint-Exupery's drawing, etc. but it always has to be one. It cannot be a group of elephants in front of you, all African elephants, the millions of elephants being digested by boa constrictors in the millions of reproductions of that picture, etc.

I'm using the expansions suggested in http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+gadri, where

    lo pa xanto = zo'e noi ke'a xanto gi'e zilkancu li pa lo xanto,

but {lo xanto} can be plural, so this removes the effect of the zilkancu part. Is it that I misunderstand this equation, or is it just false?

.asiz suggested:

    {lo pa xanto cu zilkancu li pa lo ka xanto},

This might have been better, but the other examples do not use a ka-abstraction in zilkancu3, so zilkancu1 in {zilkancu li pa lo ka xanto}, would seem to be to be a property, not an elephant.

ki'e mi'e la danr

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