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Re: [lojban] Individuals and xorlo
la .guskant. cu cusku di'e
The way I see it, any {lo broda} is an individual (or an
individual-collection). It doesn't matter what {broda} is. What kind of
individuals there are in {lo broda} depends on {broda}, but they are
still always individuals. There is no difference between {lo ckafi} and
{lo prenu} in terms of individualness.
Do you still mean
"SUMTI is individual" =ca'e {RO DA poi ke'a me SUMTI zo'u SUMTI me DA}
with the term "individual"?
If so, keeping {lo broda} to be individual requires attentiveness on the
universe of discourse, and reduces the flexibility of the language.
Note that I said "is an individual or an individual-collection". That
is, {lo broda} can refer to one individual or to multiple individuals,
but we are always dealing in terms of individuals. It doesn't mean that
{lo broda} must be singular, it only means that whether or not it is
plural, the only referents it has are individuals.
Let me give an example.
lo prenu cu jmaji gi'e jukpa gi'e citka
I want to mean with this sentence that this {lo prenu} consists of at
least two persons {by} and {cy}, and satisfies {jmaji} collectively {je}
non-distributively, {jukpa} collectively {ja} distributively, {citka}
non-collectively {je} distributively. This {lo} cannot be replaced by
{loi} because I want it to satisfy a selbri non-collectively.
For this {lo prenu}, {by me lo prenu} is true, but {lo prenu me by} is
false, so this {lo prenu} is not individual.
Correct, because this {lo prenu} has two referents, both of which are
individuals. {lo prenu} itself is not an individual, but its referents
are individuals.
Your example sentence is perfectly fine.
mi'e la selpa'i mu'o
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