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Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban's leadership and how I don't give a shit about it



I'm an LLG member. If the notion of giving selpa'i an official leadership role of some kind comes up for a vote at our annual meeting, I will vote in favor.

Until then, my support counts for very little; I'm not an active part of the language's user base these days. But to the extent that my support matters, it's there.

On May 15, 2014 8:45 PM, "Dustin Lacewell" <dlacewell@gmail.com> wrote:
(now there's an endorsement :)

If selpa'i were awake I know that he would agree with one point and disagree with the other. He's certainly of the opinion, that we have shared together, that leadership comes from the communal support you refer to. However, I think selpa'i would describe to you some of his experience in trying to lead, before, in which he received some extremely loud backlash.

Both of these things come together to form the motion we're now proposing. While I could only reasonably interpret your message as incredibly supportive; its also absolutely important that we do this thread. We're doing this thread because we too are perceptive the support you mention. By holding this motion explicitly in front of the community, we are asking all those who do indeed support selpa'i to manifest that support here so that the strong influence he has in the community today can be demonstrated and give weight to the ensuing change in leadership.

As for the commentary regarding the LLG; we're definitely aware of it and the BPFK's missions, history and status. I'll just say that a few LLG members and the chair of the BPFK have already given mixed support, both fully and provisionally.


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Craig Daniel <craigbdaniel@gmail.com> wrote:

It really seems to me that official leadership positions are a question for the LLG membership and board. Unofficial leadership, which does come from the whole of the Lojban-speaking community, isn't something you vote on by saying aye or nay, but by letting the person lead and then following or not. Selpa'i leads, and we mostly do follow; in a sense, then, the true vote concluded long ago, and the community said yes.

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