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Re: [lojban] cidja




On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
  Why, are you insinuating that ti karce no da makes what I'm pointing not, in fact a car?

If the statement is true, then it may still be a car, but it won't karce. You are saying that it doesn't karce anything. 

  Or a vacant office can't be a "briju no da"?

Of course it can, "briju no da" just means that it doesn't briju anything. Both a vacant office and an elephant briju no da.
 
 The fact that nothing can fill the x2 place doesn't necessarily take something out of the realm of it being whatever the x1 specifies, vau ru'a

A brivla specifies a relationship between its arguments, it doesn't specify each of its arguments. So if nothing can fill one of the arguments, then that brivla won't be satisfied by any argument n-tuple, In those cases you need a brivla with fewer arguments, which is what "zi'o" gets you. This is one of the reasons why bloated gismu are such a nuisance.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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