On Friday, August 8, 2014 1:09:50 PM UTC-4, Latro wrote:On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, TR NS <tran...@gmail.com> wrote:"Selma'o cast" type cmavo, which is really what you are suggesting (it casts LE to KU, NOI to KUhO, etc.) are generally difficult to formalize. This is a big part of why mekso is such a big mess. (Another is just YACC parser limitations, some of which have not been corrected in the semi-official PEG or even the zasni gerna).Also, thinking about the use case you describe, it occurs to me that it would be much easier to remember a single cmavo that worked in conjunction with the opening cmavo, e.g. `ke melbri nixli kexo ckule` instead of `ke melbri nixli ke'e ckule` where `xo` is some cmavo that means "close the cmavo I just mentioned".
Going into some details, let's call your cmavo {xau} for discussion ({xo} is taken). {vau} and arguably {boi} do not match your paradigm. {le'u} looks like it should, but it really doesn't, because if {lo'u xau} terminates {lo'u} then you can't quote {lo'u xau} to explain what it means. (By contrast, you can quote {le'u} using {zo} and can quote {zo} using {lo'u}/{le'u}, which means there is syntax available for defining these in Lojban.) The interaction with {lu} would be intelligible but counterintuitive and possibly not formalizable: {lu ... lu xau} appears to start a second quote and then, doesn't. And finally you would need to specify how exactly {xau} interacts with {si} (is {ke xau} one word or two?). Everything else would probably work out.
Good point about quotations. Just leaving quotes out of this seems better, so no {lo'u}, and even if strictly possible, not {le'u} or {lu} either. Your point about {lu} made we wonder though. What about {xau lu} versus {lu xau}? Would having {xau} go first make things more intelligible, and can that work grammatically? Not sure about {si} but I think probably one, b/c it is probably better to repeat the whole thing if need be.--
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