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Re: [lojban] One end cmavo to rule them all



That's a pretty cool idea. It's a slightly more verbose in the case of the common terminators (ku, kei, boi), but very reasonable for the lesser used ones. One downside is that it would be a (semi-) magic word (in the lojban sense  http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Magic_Words) which tend to create problems in the grammar. But in this case I think you'd just need to change
KEhE-pre <- pre-clause KEhE spaces?

to
KEhE-pre <- pre-clause (KEhE | XAU KE)  spaces?

and so on.

Also, fyi, {xo} is already a word. Experimental cmavo take the forms xVV, xV'V, CVV'V, CV'VV, etc (http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/%22experimental%20cmavo%22).

-- Ross


On 7 August 2014 23:00, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 10:13:17 PM UTC-4, Ross Ogilvie wrote:
"We can't close any open clauses until we've closed that most recent one". This only sort of true. If there are a stack of open clauses, we can close several at a time by closing one in the middle of the stack, which forces all the ones more recent than that to close. If there was only one word for closing, you would have to repeat it a lot, and people aren't so good at numerically counting levels.

Ah, that is a great point. Though it would probably not be so common b/c people aren't so good at keeping track of too many levels in general, as you point out (regardless of actually counting them). It would still be nice to have a word for close-current-clause. (Maybe there already is? I could not find a cmavo for it.) Also, thinking about the use case you describe, it occurs to me that it would be much easier to remember a single cmavo that worked in conjunction with the opening cmavo, e.g. `ke melbri nixli kexo ckule` instead of `ke melbri nixli ke'e ckule` where `xo` is some cmavo that means "close the cmavo I just mentioned".

.trans.

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