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Re: [lojban] Revitalizing LLG: Suggestions for the 2014 annual meeting



On 8/27/2014 2:25 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
    I am the last person to consult on website design.  I'm just saying
    that a chronic complaint from new people and casual strangers is
    that our home page lacks current news, and that if people like you
    want more people to read Lojban, you should make sure Lojban text
    which will encourage discussion should be on the home page or some
    other place where people will quickly page to.  In the past Matt was
    encouraging discussion with a blog, so it seems like a timely blog,
    in language, possibly with multiple contributors, would be the sort
    of thing that will encourage what you want.  I would ask Matt for
    other ideas - he was the one with ideas and enthusiasm for promoting
    Lojban.  I'm of the wrong generation to know how to appeal to
    youngsters (i.e. people under 50 %^)


For storing lengthy ideas some use blogs or pages on
lojban.org <http://lojban.org> and
mw.lojban.org <http://mw.lojban.org>

Where?  Not obvious from the home page, which is where people look.

In most cases they place links to their articles (no matter where their
articles reside) to the freenode #lojban channel,
http://reddit.com/r/lojban/ or https://www.facebook.com/groups/lojban/
or to twitter.com <http://twitter.com>

I don't see how any of those is responsive to what I described.

                 If moving all discussions to Lojban fail then you can
        ban us and
                 continue the old policy of non-proliferation of Lojban
        zo'oru'e.

             That isn't "policy".  It is de facto reality.

        There is a separate thread where people are making requests both in
        Lojban and in English.

    What thread?  "End vowel for slot" doesn't seem like that sort of thing.

I don't know if you receive messages from it. Here its online copy
showing that using only Lojban is not a problem:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/jiHfjZUqTjM

Actually, most or all of those posters provided a translation. But of course, that thread isn't really a discussion, either.

Could Lojbanists carry out a discussion, say, of Craig's ZG issue, entirely in Lojban? Probably several people could, including Craig, but they aren't doing so. And probably half or more of the membership could not follow such a discussion, or if they could follow it, could not then contribute in a timely matter. (I might be able to follow it at email speeds, but I haven't exactly figured out what the issue is from his English description; it wouldn't be easier for me in Lojban). That is why I called the situation "de facto reality" and not "policy".

lojbab

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