Re: [lojban] Revitalizing LLG: Suggestions for the 2014 annual meeting

[Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>]

2014-08-19 20:07 GMT+04:00 Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>:

On 8/18/2014 7:00 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:

IMO the main drawback is not any committees but the lack of CMS.

CMS ki'a?

content management system. E.g. many people say that tiki isnt fine. So other solutions have to be considered

The tiki had a page "ongoing projects". However, it wasn't said how you
contribute.

If you mean updating the status of said projects, by editing the page. If you mean contributing to the project work, that is up to whoever is responsible for the project.  All that LLG does is provide recognition to said projects.

There was no algorithm of how you can help with those projects.

There isn't one.  It is entirely up to whoever is organizing the project.

2. There is no platforum for translations to Lojban.

In general, if something isn't found on the lojban web pages, it is up to the community to create it.  If no one does so, it doesn't get done.  If a software tool is needed, you need to provide it or (if it already exists) ask Robin if it can be made available.

As I said I know what tools are fine for me. So personally I have no problems with that.

 

3. Another succesfull project is Masato Hagiwara's camxes.js

That it was placed on github allowed us to start developing it further.
Github is another nice platform for completing projects.

And yet that bears the same problem you describe above.  Many people (including myself) have no idea what github is or how to use it or which if any projects may be found on it.

For IT-related projects it's fine. For those who are not programmers it has no value.

 

4. Many people don't even know that they can add words to jbovlaste.
Yes, it's not a joke. They don't know cuz nobody tells them!

I know they can be added, but I never learned how.  But jbovlaste is the first listed of official projects and the link takes you to a page that identifies a "How you can help" which talks about adding words.

Since people still have no idea it only means that this link is not enough. People appear to be dumber than previously thought. Always blame the teacher, not students.

 

5. Few know about the IRC channel #lojban which is the main place of
activity.

It's on the main menu shown on the Lojban home page.  I don't know why people don't know of it given that prominent location.

This question has been recently asked in the Facebook group.

I'm trying to address issues 4 and 5 in another wiki.

What good will that do.  The information is there.  The main problem is that no one looks at it.  Maybe they don't know how to find things, but it seems that this call for a revision of the home page index.

Another wiki is mw.lojban.org 

lojbab

In general I'm surprised that you replied to my post, not to the main post of this thread.

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