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Re: [lojban] Idea about taxonomic vocabualry



In the context of the present discussions, it would seem that the point of semantic categorization is heuristic, not philosophical.  So, all that is needed is not complete accuracy but useful groupings (typically, similar place structures, however that may be defined).  And useful for sentence construction and analysis (knowing how many places is always handy -- and what they likely mean) as well as general semantic area.  With a little vocabulary adjustment, I suppose a few dozen categories would be enough, though you need to show that they actually improve learning (which will be hard, since we don't know much about learning Lojban now).


On Monday, September 1, 2014 9:56 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


Semantical categorization of the universe can't be done since most concepts have more than one useful tag.
Look at this attempt:
It is not perfect and no attempt can be perfect.

Also read this:


2014-09-01 18:36 GMT+04:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>:
I was thinking about stevo's `CV` categorized gismu (still would like to see that, btw) and recently reading about the notion of taxonomic languages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_language) when a neat idea struck me. If the the first three letters of a gismu related all such words --for the sake of argument let's say all fruit words started with `fru`, so then `frupa` might mean apple, `furba` banana, `furca` strawberry, etc. then my idea is that there could be a special cmavo that created a "group context", call it `xi'o... xi'u` and then one could say thins like:

    fruxi'o pa .e ba .e ca [xi'u]

Which would be the same as

    frupa .e fruba .e fruca

Of course this cmavo is a little odd b/c it works more like an inflection. And unfortunately Lojban doesn't have any sort of taxonomic vocabulary whatsoever. So it doesn't really fly. But I thought it was a neat idea anyway, so I thought I'd share.

.trans.

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