Re: [lojban] Re: criticism of lojban needed

["'John E Clifford' via lojban" <lojban@googlegroups.com>]

Well, that is a summary of nearly 60 years of discussion.  It is a valid criticism, but one that would usually affect one's view only if more detailed points were offered (we need a good bibliography of all that discussion).  Note also that it is not said to be all crap -- it does do a large part of what it set out to do -- only that it hasn't provably done all that it set out to do.  Nor is it said that anyone could do better.  Some have done some parts better, most who have looked carefully have seen that certain things are unnecessarily complex or even off course -- suggesting that better is possible, and there have been many suggested improvements never worked out in detail (and officially not to be even discussed -- though they have been, of course).  In short, someone -- or, more likely, some group -- could do better, since the Lojbanist group is committed to not doing so.  

On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 11:02 AM, v4hn <me@v4hn.de> wrote:

On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 08:44:55AM -0700, 'John E Clifford' via lojban wrote:

> Let's see how that line of objections, rather than ones to the cosmetics, can be met and turned into a positive discussion of Lojban.

I'm sorry, I might have missed something here,
but "It's all crap and anyone could do better" is no valid criticism pe'i


mu'o

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