On Saturday, September 20, 2014 18:05:40 Alexander Kozhevnikov wrote:
> coi
>
> Is there an accepted alternative to the comma "," in lojban (like "h" is
> an accepted alternative to the apostrophe "'")?
>
> Background: I've been intending to get into lojban for years, and
> recently when switching from Windows to Linux, I decided I'd put the
> lojbanized version of my name in for my user's "full name". I write my
> name in lojban like so:
>
> .a,lekSANdr.koJEVni,kov.
> (I based it on my name's Russian pronunciation, not the American-English
> one.)
What's your dialect of Russian? The standard one collapses о and а in
unstressed syllables and devoices final consonants like в->ф. But I suppose
that Russians, at least literate ones, think of them as о even if pronounced
as а (la'a lo labru'o cu toltugni).
> So here's the problem: In Unix/Linux, the user info is stored in the
> passwd file, and the full name in particular is stored in the "GECOS"
> field, which uses commas as a separator for its subfields, and (stupidly)
> has no escaping mechanism for the commas.
>
> So if I use the above name, the system ends up showing my name as just
> ".a". My current workaround is to use semicolons, which as I understand it
> have no assigned meaning in lojban and should thus be possible to coopt
> without conflicts.
>
> Thoughts?
Commas are ignored when determining whether two words are the same and where
the default stress is (valfendi gets it wrong on "spatrxapi,o", but that's
what I thought it was when I wrote it). You can leave them out.
> P.S. On the subject of my lojbanized name, I am also still hazy on when to
> or not to put starting/terminating periods and when to precede with a
> 'la', so my apologies for any omissions or redundancies on that front.
In cmene with more than one cmevla, I normally put periods with no spaces
between the components; e.g. "misisipis.rirx". I recently translated a very
long name, which came out as ".kic. bes.aviel. bes.tsyror. bes.bykorat.
bes.afiax." The pause before "aleksandr" is required regardless of dotside,
because it begins with a vowel.
Pierre
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