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Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban's Biggest Problem or Why Still Nobody Speaks It



On 2 November 2014 13:23, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 1:51:26 PM UTC-4, selpa'i wrote:
Simply put, there aren't enough words, and the few words that exist do
not enable us to make nuanced descriptions of the world.


One the big advantages of natural language is connotation --they can use the same (short) word for different meanings.  e.g. a `bus` for transporting people vs a `bus` for transporting data in computer hardware. There is a related concept between the two, but they are very different things. Lojban doesn't seem to work well for creating a single word for such disparate things. (maybe it could but people tend not to?)

It also kind of shame that there isn't a way to speak in abbreviated forms, e.g. if their were a two part word "vehicle-bus" and another "computer-bus", we could just use "bus" once we set forth the context as "vehicle" or "computer".

I had thought of a system to achieve this with type-3 and contextual type-4 fu'ivla. The idea is that each type-3 fu'ivla would suggest a (shorter) contextual type-4 fu'ivla to use in its place.

e.g. zuktriorlo = x1 does x2 (ka) because YOLO |>>> suggests {iorlo} as a type-4 to use in its place when the context is clear.

Typically, the suggested type-4 can be constructed by pulling off the type-3 head, and injecting a consonant if necessary to make a cluster.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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