Re: [lojban] {jai jai} and {fai}

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

2014-10-25 19:39 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

I need two {jai}, one for creating fai-jai construction, the other to prevent raising of {ko'a}.

(ko'a {<jai [jai ri'a broda]> <[fai ko'e] VAU>})

You mean _allow_ raising, right? "jai" allows raising an argument from a subordinate bridi up to the main bridi. 

I can see that fai refers to the outer {jai} which deals with raising but how to refer to the inner {jai}?

Presumably "fai xi pa". That's how lojban usually deals with this sort of things.

I wish I could wrap the inner {jai} with something like {ke}.

You can: "jai ke jai ri'a broda [ke'e]" is grammatical, although unnecessary in this simple case.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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