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[lojban] Re: star (shape)





Le samedi 18 avril 2015 11:12:42 UTC+9, Andrew Browne a écrit :
I agree that a star (heavenly body) and a star (shape) are distinct concepts and should have separate words.

But in the context of shapes "star" still has multiple meanings:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star-shaped_polygon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_polygon

What gismu or lujvo would represent these two concepts?
Is the second one the first one +dikni ?


 
What la piier wants should include star polygons, and should be narrower term than star-shaped polygons, because his purpose is creating lujvo for "starfish, star-nosed mole, stellated polyhedron". You might missed my previous post in which I suggested creating gismu for stellated form:

Le mercredi 15 avril 2015 18:05:34 UTC+9, guskant a écrit :

I understand that gismu form should be created from words of natural languages, but, in this case, I prefer creating it from lojban words for a geometrical definition of stellation:


Maybe from : 
terkubli tcena tarmi

for example, {kutmi}, {kutca} or something.



pe'ibu'o {kutca} should be rejected, because the 4-letter-rafsi would be similar to that of {gutci}.

The precise definition of {kutmi} would be:

x1 tarmi gi'e jalge lo nu lo terkubli be x2 bei x3 cu tcena ji'e lo nu tyky simxu lo ka kruca kei kei kei gi'e to'e cimni

Note 1: 
Temporal lojban definition of {kubli} by la xorxes on jbovlaste refers to only hexahedron, so if we adopt it as official, we will need another word for polytopes.
Note 2: 
{to'e cimni} in the definition is for excluding hemipolyhedra. If you don't mind including it, we may delete that part of the definition.


With {kutmi}, we will be able to create what la piier wants. For example,

starfish: kutmyfi'e: x1 finpe x2 gi'e se tarmi lo kutmi

star-nosed mole: kutmynazdermabru: x1 mabru x2 gi'e xabju lo dertu .ije lo nazbi be x1 cu se tarmi lo kutmi 

stellated polyhedron: cibykutmi: x1 kutmi li ci x2


mu'o

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