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[lojban] Re: Proposal for new cmavo: {vau'u}



Well, since you guys seem to hate (zo'o) [i'au] so much, I thought of a possible different approach. 

[i'au] will still be kept as is, but instead attitudinals and other UI-cmavo are considered inherently ambiguous as to scope; as to whether it applies to the last unit, or something more than that. For this, another new cmavo will be made that works much like [i'au], but serves the opposite function: meaning, "yes, I really mean this to affect the last unit only".

Advantage is that this probably reflects usage better with people forgetting to close their sentences (or closing them improperly) before adding attitudinals. Also, this way we won't have to edit ro lo ma'a datka and completely ruin its meter. (zo'oru'e)

On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 4:04:48 PM UTC+8, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) wrote:
I think it might be useful to have a new cmavo, {vau'u}, which is in its own selma'o. It would act as a "super famyma'o / super vau"; acting as any number of {vau}s needed to close off a sentence.

Why? Attitudinals, mostly; it'd allow adding attitudinals as an afterthought, attaching it to the entire sentence rather than the last thing in it. {vau} is sufficient for simple sentences (e.g. {do sidju mi vau ui}), but more complex sentences with subclauses at the end may require several {vau}, which just feels wrong. For example

Instead of: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau vau vau ui} 
You can have: {do sidju mi lo nu mi zenba lo ni ricfu vau'u ui}

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