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Re: [lojban] Re: Proposal: loi lerfu tcita detri; the final word on the problem of dates and times?

If mixing PA & BY in LI is such a controversial thing, why not use "la (PA*BY)*" instead? As far, as i (don't really) know that would harm no grammar, and, probably, would be the shortest alternative possible due to frequently skipped 'y's (ignore the wrong, capitalized tags): de'i la renopamuN feiL cipaD, or la reDYpaL, etc.

On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 at 09:07 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-06-01 9:54 GMT+03:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>:


2015-05-31 15:32 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:


On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Disadvantages:
a. Like it's {pi'e} equivalent it's not a predicate language. An expansion of these rules into predicates is needed for linguistic purposes no matter how verbose the expansion will be (i.e. its value for everyday usage is irrelevant). {citsi} also has to be explained in this expansion since it is one of the few "splicing time interval" brivla. relations like {ca}/date, {ze'a}/period are to be explained.
b. Those are new rules injected into the language. Multiplying entities is usually not good. Although they actually make {pi'e} solution not needed so in total the required part of the language becomes less heavy.
c. timezone can't be easily specified inside {de'i} using names of countries.

d. It will break down if (and hopefully when) digit strings become disentangled from letter strings.

e. To say "Monday" one will have to resort to {se detri be li jydy pa}, not a very short _expression_, same for months. So to imitate major languages the 7+12 extra words (pavdei, pavmasti etc. or equivalents) might still be needed.


And obviously this doesn't work for non-compatible calendars. E.g. the maya one who literally wrote 13.0.0.0.0 in Long Count.
Again its expansion into mayan units such as k'in, winal, tun etc. are needed. And it's not clearly understandable how to sum up these units. And how to operate different units arithmetically in general.

2 miles + 3 km ~= 6km

li mo'e lo minli be li re te'u su'i mo'e lo ki'otre be li ci ... ?

is it the magic of both minli1, ki'otre1, mo'e and su'i that make those intervals not overlap?




mu'o mi'e xorxes

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