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Re: [lojban] seca'o





2015-09-01 4:28 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:
On Monday, August 31, 2015 21:39:23 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> Neither {fi'o ... fe'u} constructs. Why can't they be tenses?

They are an open class equivalent to BAI. The selbri inside can be converted
with SE.

> That would  by semantics include {ka'a}, won't it? or you want to allow
> spatial markers but make a syntactic exclusion for Lojban?

{ka'a} is grammatically not a tense marker, but a member of BAI.

Sometimes tense is conflated with aspect and mood, the whole thing being called
tense; sometimes they are separated. We should probably have words for both.
In Lojban, aspects and tenses are expressed in the same way, but with different
selma'o; mood, however, is expressed differently. The modals (CAhA) are part of
the tense-aspect system, but subjunctive and irrealis are expressed with some
members of UI, and the imperative is expressed with a pronoun.

Yes, that's what I'm talking. If {ka'a} can be a tense marker like {fa'a} or {mo'i ne'i} in some natlangs then you can't reconcile this fact with Lojban system.
 

Pierre
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