28 kwi 2016 23:30 "'Wuzzy' via lojban" <lojban@googlegroups.com> napisał(a):
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> I have trouble making sense of the official definition of “detri”.
> It states:
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> > x1 is the date [day,{week},{month},year] of event/state x2, at
> > location x3, by calendar x4.
Hm. I always thought the definition to say, "year, {month, day}", or something like that.
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> The notes state:
> > (time units in x1 are specified as numbers separated by pi'e or are
> > unit values massified with joi); See also cmavo list de'i, djedi,
> > jeftu, masti, nanca, tcika.
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> I just want to specify a date, but the definition is not really helpful.
> The brackets are confusing, what are they supposed to mean?
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> How do I specify …
> … a day, month and year?
> … a day (ONLY a day)?
> … a week?
> … a month?
> … a year?
> … a day and a month?
> … a day and a year?
>
> What do I do if I want to specify a date of a calender which works
> differently (i.e. the day/week/month/year scheme does not
> apply or at least it does not apply well)?
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> The only thing which seems be be clear is “li pa pi'e pa pi'e pa pi'e
> pa detri” which can only mean “day 1, week 1, month 1, year 1”.
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> What does “li pa detri” mean?
> Day 1? Week 1? Year 1?
> What does “li pa pi'e pa detri” mean?
> Day 1, week 1? Day 1, month 1? Day 1, year 1? Month 1, year 1?
> What does “li pa pi'e pa pi'e pa detri” mean?
> Day 1, week 1, month 1? Day 1, month 1, year 1? Week 1, month 1, year 1?
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> You get the idea.
>
> Basically, the problem is that the definition is confusing / not clear
> on the meaning of each of the numbers which are supposed to be
> seperated by a “pi'e”.
>
> Even something relatively simple like clearly (that is,
> without other interpretations) specifying day/month/year seems to be
> impossible. Saying “li pa pi'e pa pi'e pa detri” could mean
> day/month/year, day/week/year or even day/week/month. Or did I
> misunderstood the definition?
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> I hope you can help me, but it seems the way the definition is written
> now makes it basically pretty useless (to me, at least). :-(
So the more or less used format is the ISO one: YYYY-MM-DD, and the language allows «xo'e» for unspecified numbers. Not sure about the week thing though.
Have a look at this discussion of a proposal for a new system, loi lerfu tcita detri:
# mu'o mi'e la uakci
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