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> > I was just trying to see if anyone was still paying attention to the mailing list
I was watching to see how it unfolded before publicly judging.
> > Why do none of those people ever participate in anything constructive?
I do.
Anyone else want to help formalise the website maintenance project and set up project management software for all Lojbanists to use freely? I've been submitting what
I think to be constructive ideas.
I just need access to a server to install these things, if approved. I've even offered to pay for server space, if necessary and reasonable.
> > Why has everyone been ignoring la uakci's many attempts at getting the community
to participate in things like his interactive story or the weekly poems?
Not everyone. I participated and this entire site is because of uakci's efforts https://kibykarni.wordpress.com/ but
I am a "mailing list exclusive". It may look small but it took me hours and I learnt much.
> > How hard is it to respond with "Nice work, I'm looking forward
to the next issue"?
I honestly assumed that those sort of responses aren't appreciated on mailing lists due to email volume concerns. This presumed etiquette may be why the community seems
a bit cold on this sort of medium, when it isn't actually quite so. I did thank uakci privately.
> Because we don't care about a nebulous idea of "community"; we're not Esperantists and we're not seeking intercultural exchange.
It's a language, after all, which makes little sense to learn without some others to speak with.
Beyond that, I think humanity really needs a language that democratises logic and clear thinking.
From: lojban@googlegroups.com <lojban@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Thomas Porter <osiris_hades_deathland@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2016 4:44 AM To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] BPFK has approved cmavo swaps >Many people only ever speak up when they have something to complain about (usually whenever something appears to be changing).
A young couple adopt a German baby. Throughout his childhood the little boy is perfectly normal, except for the fact he never speaks a single word. Being the caring parents they are, they have him tested by every expert in every possible way to find out what is wrong with him but nothing ever comes up. One day, however, shortly after the boy’s 5th birthday, after lunch he suddenly asserts: “This strudel is tepid.� His parents are completely puzzled yet amazed: “Heinrich! What’s been wrong? How come you talk all of a sudden? Why haven’t you spoken before?� The boy turns to his parents and replies imperturbably : “Until now, everything has been satisfactory.�
>Why do none of those people ever participate in anything constructive? Why has everyone been ignoring la uakci's many attempts at getting the community
>to participate in things like his interactive story or the weekly poems? Because we don't care about a nebulous idea of "community"; we're not Esperantists and we're not seeking intercultural exchange. We only want a language that functions as spoken logic. Had Loglan a greater following and more materials,
it would be chosen instead.
>How hard is it to respond with "Nice work, I'm looking forward to the next issue"? You managed to frustrate them so much that they have now
l>eft the mailing list. la uakci is one of the most promising new jbopre in the world, and it is a terrible choice to ignore their efforts and >risk losing them because they receive nothing in return. When you choose an obscure hobby like invented language learning, you can't do it for accolades or attention. You have to do it because there is something it offers that natural languages do not. It is a deeply personal and isolating hobby. >Lojban belongs in the hands of those who act, and sadly, you are not one of them. Why aren't you? And why spoil it for those who actually care? Lojban belongs only to itself. We are its inheritors, but never its master. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |