Re: [lojban] Apologia, using h instead of yhy

["Mike S." <maikxlx@gmail.com>]

Nice arguments; it's been hashed for decades.  The Lojban apostrophe is the symbol for a certain sort of semi- or degenerate-consonant sound that is only allowed to appear between vowels, and not near another consonant or a pause.  There is a certain logic to it.  The distribution of <'> is quite distinct from that of other consonants.  Also, there is a competing argument, not mentioned on this thread, that <h> should cover /x/.

Looking at the bigger picture, if there was one thing I could change about Lojban orthography, it'd be the use of <.> as a phonological segment, and the need to place it front of cmevla.  That's a worse aesthetic offense than the Lojban apostrophe ever was; IMHO it's downright jarring.  One might have the wish to back up and change a few things at once.  Most likely it's never going to happen though, since nothing about Lojban orthography is broken in a fundamental way.  It works.  It just pokes a finger in the eye of Latin-spelled languages, especially with that abominable initial <.>.

BTW, I agree that breathy-voiced h for <'> is the way forward.

Best,

-Mike

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Mark E. Shoulson <mark@kli.org> wrote:

I've been saying essentially this for many years.  Thanks.

~mark

On 06/23/2017 06:34 PM, vpbroman@gmail.com wrote:

I was questioned on my usually using "h" instead of " ' " in lojban,
so I would like to explain my reasoning and usage preference,
and I invite constructive criticism, since I am surely open to reason in reconsidering the issue.

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