"Lojban: the language where no one ever knows whether what he says is grammatical, and,if it is, whether it means what he intended." is apparently even more true now than it was nearly 30 years ago when it was first proposed. Even monoparsing, basically the only reason for Lojban's existence, is more in doubt now than it was even back in the early days of CLL (well, getting the right parse, at least; getting a unique one is easy). All the Baroque excrescences on the simple system JCB tossed away 60+ years ago seem to have done the opposite of helping. And clearly learning Lojban has not helped to make people more rational or logical or even sensible.
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