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Re: [lojban] Re: CLL and modern Lojban



doi la .pycyn.
Thanks for clarification.
I can imagine how you feel, because you are actually describing the nightmare I was guessing.
I personally still have (a bit of) hope, but if what you say is true, that may require more sacrifices from some people. Indeed, as far as I understand, multiple people stay on their own mind, but have different positions. So waiting more and more will just freeze ("fossilize"?) everything in a non-desirable state.


Le mardi 7 novembre 2017 14:18:38 UTC+1, clifford a écrit :
Not bitter, merely dismayed and very sad.  40 years ago Logjam seemed to have great promise, but (as I later found) it had already spent its promise and, despite years fiddling and a couple of almost total restarts, has only gotten further and further from its goal (monoparsing possibly aside).  The only real fix I can conceive is to junk everything you have now (except as a pile of spare parts, some of which may eventually be of use) and go back to square one, with a a higher order intensional logic rather than FOPL and a careful, step by step construction by reversable transformations.  Good luck with any phase of that plan.


On Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 3:51:29 AM CST, <suke...@gmail.com> wrote:


@stevo: Sorry I don't understand the "make it the same as it was before". From my point of view:
  • Establishing language rules "forever" is not possible. Therefore some changes will be necessary. This is what called "evolution".
  • Forking may be interesting. It may be an pure experiment, a "feature branch", a fix, etc.
  • Reintegrating a branch to the core actually changes the core! This is why it must be done very carefully, in order to not break initial intents of the language.
I hope I mad myself clearer :-)



Le mardi 7 novembre 2017 09:59:20 UTC+1, stevo a écrit :
sykynder: You mention re-integrating forks back into the core language. How do you change something and then make it the same as it was before? And why would you want to? 
 
stevo

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