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Re: [lojban] Why Lojban fails





Em sábado, 11 de abril de 2020 21:39:56 UTC+3, uakci escreveu:
I would’ve agreed, but neither logic nor linguistics are alchemy.

But spoken fopl or swh might be.
(Controlled parsable semantically unambiguous English is a thing anyway and is in use unlike Lojban)
 
Lojban has succeeded as a language that people use to communicate, but as a project, it fails to meet the requirements as it stands now. From a bird’s-eye view, this might not be so apparent, but then you realize that so many little things are left undecided, like {ce’u} filling, exact semantics of FIhO, some grammatical quirks like {.y bu} and {zo .y}, and the ever-present issue of overengineering…

You could say that this is not a problem for Lojban, and I’d agree: not for Lojban as a language (or languages, since Lojban dialects tend to solve these matters more elegantly and therefore amount to an advancement, not a hindrance). But the overall project’s criteria have not yet been met, and thus it is still ongoing, which raises the question of why one should care to believe in its completion provided that it’s over 30 years since it was founded. I, for one, prefer to stake my bets on a loglang project whose development history — track record — and leadership do not foretell its eventual abandonment.

— Mỉ Hỏashī jí ka

On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 19:54, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Alchemists pursued what appeared to be nonexistent. Still they found a lot of gems during their research.

So whatever goals Loglan or Lojban had in past it's fine in present as it is.

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