On Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 13:17 <lojban@googlegroups.com> wrote:
- Gismu in need of place structure extensions - 2 Updates
Jmive <mcdonohe@mail.gvsu.edu>: Jun 23 12:42PM -0700
What gismu feel like they have incomplete place structures?
The lujvo {ci'erkei} and {kelci'e} feel like they only exist because
{kelci} is missing a spot about what game is being played and/or its rules.
The primary sense of the word seems to be about unstructured play, in the
sense that a child plays with toys. But even this sense could be improved
by a place for the game that's being played, as unstructured play can form
unstructured games, usually of an imaginative sort, such as "cops and
robbers" or "house".
Proposed alternative definition:
> x1 plays with toy/plaything/gamepiece x2 in game x3
With this, {kelci} becomes like a recreational (rather than productive)
version of {pilno}.
Alterations to existing lujvo semantics: {nunkei} becomes "play session" or
a game in the sense meaning "match" -- the thing you're referring to when
you say "good game". {samselkei} might mean a gaming console (such that
s1=k2); {dracyselkei} might mean a miniature, die, or LARP prop. I would
argue that these are closer to the literal meanings of those lujvo to begin
with, since {selkei} is defined as "toy", not "game".
Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>: Jun 24 02:32AM -0700
Or if you don't like existing lujvo you can just create new words instead of trying to redo existing words that others have already learned the way they are. This way it'd be less egocentric.
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