From pycyn@aol.com Thu Aug 23 17:06:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 24 Aug 2001 00:06:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 30651 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2001 00:02:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Aug 2001 00:02:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.100) by mta2 with SMTP; 24 Aug 2001 00:02:34 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id r.ab.e2f2f39 (3981) for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:01:51 EDT Subject: si'o To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ab.e2f2f39.28b6f36f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10531 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_ab.e2f2f39.28b6f36f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit {si'o} in the list and what little there is in the Book looks to be redundant for a relativized {ka} on the one hand and for something totally outside that range on the other. It is admittedly a bit hard to relativize {ka} as a predicate (damn, I miss the real and useful {me}), but then the predicate use is not very common and the sumti relativization is easy: {le si'o klama be mi} is just {lemi ka klama} once all the {ce'u} and {zo'e} have been sorted in. And nothing at present seems to stand for the other version, the mental event or construct that is my idea of going, not at all a function and not necessarioly and experience either. The other "idea" that turns up hereabouts is the sense of {ka} a function from worlds into functions on a world which gives the appropriate function for the {ka} in each world. That doesn't look like what anyone wants either. --part1_ab.e2f2f39.28b6f36f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit {si'o} in the list and what little there is in the Book looks to be redundant
for a relativized {ka} on the one hand and for something totally outside that
range on the other.  It is admittedly a bit hard to relativize {ka} as a
predicate (damn, I miss the real and useful {me}), but then the predicate use
is not very common and the sumti relativization is easy: {le si'o klama be
mi} is just {lemi ka klama} once all the {ce'u} and {zo'e} have been sorted
in.  And nothing at present seems to stand for the other version, the mental
event or construct that is my idea of going, not at all a function and not
necessarioly and experience either.
The other "idea" that turns up hereabouts is the sense of {ka} a function
from worlds into functions on a world which gives the appropriate function
for the {ka} in each world.  That doesn't look like what anyone wants either. --part1_ab.e2f2f39.28b6f36f_boundary--