From phma@oltronics.net Sat Aug 25 09:34:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 25 Aug 2001 16:34:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 32149 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2001 16:33:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2001 16:33:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (216.189.29.73) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 Aug 2001 16:33:41 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 562EB3C502; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Snowballs in hell was Re: mine, thine Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:29:04 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0108251229040H.01123@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat On Saturday 25 August 2001 01:20, Nick NICHOLAS wrote: li'o > 11.15) le nu mi nolraitru > cu me le'e snime bolci > be vi la xel. cu'o > The event-of me being-a-nobly-superlative-ruler > has-the-stereotypical snow type-of-ball > at Hell probability. > I have a snowball's chance in Hell of being king. li'o > Well, live by the baseline, die by the baseline. So be it; .i ku'i lenu mi > ba pilno lu me zo'e moi li'u cu me le'e snime bolci bevi le fabri pe la > daptutra me'o cu'o fabri ki'a .i do skudji zo fagri xu? .i stidi zo ge'iNOM. seba'i zo xel. {xel.} to me is the abode of the dead, or its deity, not specifically the lake of fire, which is {ge'iNOM.}. The latter word can also refer to the Hinnom Valley Incinerator, which wouldn't have been a good place for snowballs either. Using {xel.} for {ge'iNOM.} is malglico. (If anyone is better informed about Hel in Norse mythology, please correct me.) As to snowballs, why not {si'erboi}, which unlike the tanru can't also mean "snow-covered ball" or "ball buried in the snow"? phma